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	<title>Comments on: SLPTO Offers Second Life Content Creators Suite of Intellectual Property Protection Tools</title>
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		<title>By: Blawg Review #133 &#124; Chicago IP Litigation</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-74265</link>
		<dc:creator>Blawg Review #133 &#124; Chicago IP Litigation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Virtually Blind has an interesting report on Second Life&#8217;s* new Patent &amp; Trademark Office, the SLPTO.&#160;No word on whether the SLPTO and the Second Life legal system generally will allow for any permanent injunctions.&#160;Right now it appears that the SLPTO will be heavily skewed toward copyright and trademark, which makes sense in a virtual world.&#160;And before we learn whether the SLPTO has any enforcement mechanisms, Blawg IT is offering to represent virtual clients before the SLPTO.&#160;I would get a retainer up front Brett &#8211; virtual clients can be difficult to track down when the bills are due. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Virtually Blind has an interesting report on Second Life&rsquo;s* new Patent &amp; Trademark Office, the SLPTO.&nbsp;No word on whether the SLPTO and the Second Life legal system generally will allow for any permanent injunctions.&nbsp;Right now it appears that the SLPTO will be heavily skewed toward copyright and trademark, which makes sense in a virtual world.&nbsp;And before we learn whether the SLPTO has any enforcement mechanisms, Blawg IT is offering to represent virtual clients before the SLPTO.&nbsp;I would get a retainer up front Brett &ndash; virtual clients can be difficult to track down when the bills are due. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Getty</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-29864</link>
		<dc:creator>Getty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what&#039;s been most instrumental in giving IP a bad name is the frivolous/predatory copyright practices that big corporations have engaged in.  They try to patent everything they can, whether it&#039;s obvious or not and whether they actually invented it or not.  If it&#039;s not yet patented, and a patent clerk can be convinced, they gobble it up.

I&#039;ve seen some pretty ridiculous patents too, especially software patents.  You never know if some of the clever tricks you think up while programming are actually someone&#039;s property.  It&#039;d be like if someone patented using a stick as a pretend sword and then went around suing every young boy who one day finds a stick and &quot;steals&quot; this use of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what&#8217;s been most instrumental in giving IP a bad name is the frivolous/predatory copyright practices that big corporations have engaged in.  They try to patent everything they can, whether it&#8217;s obvious or not and whether they actually invented it or not.  If it&#8217;s not yet patented, and a patent clerk can be convinced, they gobble it up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some pretty ridiculous patents too, especially software patents.  You never know if some of the clever tricks you think up while programming are actually someone&#8217;s property.  It&#8217;d be like if someone patented using a stick as a pretend sword and then went around suing every young boy who one day finds a stick and &#8220;steals&#8221; this use of it.</p>
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		<title>By: BlawgIT - Internet Patent, Trademark and Copyright Issues with Attorney Brett J. Trout, P.C.</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-13577</link>
		<dc:creator>BlawgIT - Internet Patent, Trademark and Copyright Issues with Attorney Brett J. Trout, P.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Second Life players FlipperPA Peregrine (aka Tim Allen) and Michael Eckstein have opened up a virtual Second Life Patent and Trademark Office (SLPTO) within the video game. This comes on the heels of six Second Life gamers suing Rase Kenzo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Second Life players FlipperPA Peregrine (aka Tim Allen) and Michael Eckstein have opened up a virtual Second Life Patent and Trademark Office (SLPTO) within the video game. This comes on the heels of six Second Life gamers suing Rase Kenzo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Weston</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-11076</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SLPTO could well be illegal in Australia. See relevant article on the Australian Trade Marks Law Blog at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australiantrademarkslawblog.com/2007/11/articles/exploitation-of-trade-marks/second-life-patent-and-trademark-office-illegal-in-australia/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australiantrademarkslawblog.com/2007/11/...-illegal-in-australia/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SLPTO could well be illegal in Australia. See relevant article on the Australian Trade Marks Law Blog at <a href="http://www.australiantrademarkslawblog.com/2007/11/articles/exploitation-of-trade-marks/second-life-patent-and-trademark-office-illegal-in-australia/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.australiantrademarkslawblog.com');">http://www.australiantrademarkslawblog.com/2007/11/&#8230;-illegal-in-australia/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trusted Worlds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2L Patent and Trademark Office</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-10820</link>
		<dc:creator>Trusted Worlds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2L Patent and Trademark Office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] infrastructure within Second Life for intellectual property policy enforcement. But its actually an in-world IPP-protection tools startup calling itself the SLPTO. I&#8217;m tempted to argue that they&#8217;re infringing on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] infrastructure within Second Life for intellectual property policy enforcement. But its actually an in-world IPP-protection tools startup calling itself the SLPTO. I&#8217;m tempted to argue that they&#8217;re infringing on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Duranske</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-10691</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Duranske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@11 - Erasmus, I think that was because pre-industrial revolution, there was literally no way to mechanically copy most intellectual property.  Protection just wasn&#039;t needed when it took nearly as long to make a copy as an original.

That said, you&#039;ve got me wondering.  I suspect many artists &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; be glad to give up some of their IP rights in return for patronage.  You know anybody who&#039;d like to pay me to write my novel, whether it sells or not?  Because I&#039;d consider giving up the copyright to it for a house for me and my family, dinners at the castle with some regularity, and a personal squire for the rest of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@11 &#8211; Erasmus, I think that was because pre-industrial revolution, there was literally no way to mechanically copy most intellectual property.  Protection just wasn&#8217;t needed when it took nearly as long to make a copy as an original.</p>
<p>That said, you&#8217;ve got me wondering.  I suspect many artists <em>would</em> be glad to give up some of their IP rights in return for patronage.  You know anybody who&#8217;d like to pay me to write my novel, whether it sells or not?  Because I&#8217;d consider giving up the copyright to it for a house for me and my family, dinners at the castle with some regularity, and a personal squire for the rest of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Erasmus Hartunian</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>Erasmus Hartunian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I wonder how valid is the assumption that one&#039;s intellectual creation ought be considered property. How did the world get by before copyright?
Copyright came about with the industrial age, a very long time after Gutenberg. Mankind went through the Age of Enlightenment just fine without copyright ... one could even wonder if copyright killed it more so than the industrial age itself.
Maybe it is time to move on to a new reward model, or revert to the former model that lasted centuries longer than the current one where creators were rewarded for their performance rather than their legacy.
... just wondering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I wonder how valid is the assumption that one&#8217;s intellectual creation ought be considered property. How did the world get by before copyright?<br />
Copyright came about with the industrial age, a very long time after Gutenberg. Mankind went through the Age of Enlightenment just fine without copyright &#8230; one could even wonder if copyright killed it more so than the industrial age itself.<br />
Maybe it is time to move on to a new reward model, or revert to the former model that lasted centuries longer than the current one where creators were rewarded for their performance rather than their legacy.<br />
&#8230; just wondering!</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Duranske</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-10662</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Duranske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@9 - Not a waste of my time at all, and I&#039;m glad you commented.   I do think, however, that we have a first principles disagreement and that quotation seems to highlight it.  

I fundamentally believe that when people are economically motivated to code software, make sculptures, paint portraits, write books, and play guitar, society is better off.  That &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; mean giving artists a temporary monopoly over their works, but I think that should not be a dirty word here since they came up with the thing we&#039;re talking about in the first place.  It is theirs, not yours, mine, or your noble farmer&#039;s, just as the potatoes he grew are his, not yours or mine. 

And when artists aren&#039;t compensated -- when they are told that their work is freely distributable the second they set it down to paper (or tape, or hard drive, or whatever) -- society is worse off.

I fundamentally reject the idea that the output of artists is everyone&#039;s, to do with what they will.  If you value art, you should too.  Relying on the creators to keep doing what they do out of the goodness of their hearts is asinine, and telling them to do it at the point of a gun (which is exactly what you will find at the bottom of Marx&#039;s slippery slope) is evil.

A better argument, I think, is over how long the monopoly we acknowledge artists should have should be.  And you&#039;d be surprised where I fall on that -- for software, for instance it should be a fraction of what it is (right now, software is so obsolete by the time that it enters the public domain that it has literally no residual value).  I don&#039;t even think books, music, and movies should be protected as long as they are.  Not by half.  

But when you come in saying that based on the fact that it&#039;s easy to copy the book that I am &lt;em&gt;right now&lt;/em&gt; spending 10 hours a day writing, everyone should be able to make a free copy, and change whatever they want, and publish it with their own name on the cover, I have to figure we&#039;ve got very little to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9 &#8211; Not a waste of my time at all, and I&#8217;m glad you commented.   I do think, however, that we have a first principles disagreement and that quotation seems to highlight it.  </p>
<p>I fundamentally believe that when people are economically motivated to code software, make sculptures, paint portraits, write books, and play guitar, society is better off.  That <em>does</em> mean giving artists a temporary monopoly over their works, but I think that should not be a dirty word here since they came up with the thing we&#8217;re talking about in the first place.  It is theirs, not yours, mine, or your noble farmer&#8217;s, just as the potatoes he grew are his, not yours or mine. </p>
<p>And when artists aren&#8217;t compensated &#8212; when they are told that their work is freely distributable the second they set it down to paper (or tape, or hard drive, or whatever) &#8212; society is worse off.</p>
<p>I fundamentally reject the idea that the output of artists is everyone&#8217;s, to do with what they will.  If you value art, you should too.  Relying on the creators to keep doing what they do out of the goodness of their hearts is asinine, and telling them to do it at the point of a gun (which is exactly what you will find at the bottom of Marx&#8217;s slippery slope) is evil.</p>
<p>A better argument, I think, is over how long the monopoly we acknowledge artists should have should be.  And you&#8217;d be surprised where I fall on that &#8212; for software, for instance it should be a fraction of what it is (right now, software is so obsolete by the time that it enters the public domain that it has literally no residual value).  I don&#8217;t even think books, music, and movies should be protected as long as they are.  Not by half.  </p>
<p>But when you come in saying that based on the fact that it&#8217;s easy to copy the book that I am <em>right now</em> spending 10 hours a day writing, everyone should be able to make a free copy, and change whatever they want, and publish it with their own name on the cover, I have to figure we&#8217;ve got very little to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Tir</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-10661</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Tir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@8 very creative, indeed... tho what could I expect from person whose raison-d-etre had been challenged in first place? i am sorry to waist yr time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8 very creative, indeed&#8230; tho what could I expect from person whose raison-d-etre had been challenged in first place? i am sorry to waist yr time.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Duranske</title>
		<link>https://virtuallyblind.com/2007/10/29/slpto-goes-live/#comment-10650</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Duranske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@7 - So basically, &quot;from each according to his ability to each according to his need?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@7 &#8211; So basically, &#8220;from each according to his ability to each according to his need?&#8221;</p>
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