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	<title>Comments on: Blizzard Wins Key Judgments Against WoW Bot Maker MDY on Copyright and Tortious Interference Claims</title>
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		<title>By: FAQ: Can game developers and publishers sue bot developers &#124; MMORPG Game Bots &#38; Hacks Watch</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-80799</link>
		<dc:creator>FAQ: Can game developers and publishers sue bot developers &#124; MMORPG Game Bots &#38; Hacks Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blizzard Wins Key Judgments Against WoW Bot Maker MDY on Copyright and Tortious Interference Claims [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lex Technologiae &#8250; Implied licenses: Why copyright and contract prevents North Country Gazette from suing you</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-45365</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex Technologiae &#8250; Implied licenses: Why copyright and contract prevents North Country Gazette from suing you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lands in your RAM.1  Courts have routinely held this sort of thing to be a copy.  One recent case finding copies in RAM to be copies under the Copyright Act was Blizzard v. MDY, the makers of the popular Glider automation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lands in your RAM.1  Courts have routinely held this sort of thing to be a copy.  One recent case finding copies in RAM to be copies under the Copyright Act was Blizzard v. MDY, the makers of the popular Glider automation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tdid</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-43222</link>
		<dc:creator>tdid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so let me ask this then for all you legal geniuses so say i went to someones house who had wow and i download glider and log into my account whos at fault now? my friend or me? eula can have such a broad scope its not even funny...and when you say third party software that clearly can be defined as any background program you run while playing wow so listening to itunes is breaking eula?? and you actually think that those things make sense??? copyright-the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video........lets think about this for a second....so what i think about this (im a regular joe smoe not a lawyer by any means) i dont see how saving anything to ram can be considered copyright infringement....ram doesnt save anything to it if you want to get technical it runs what you are on then dumps it so i just dont get it so by definition wouldnt your ram be borrowing the information???....now a hard drive saves information long term....so if someone wants to open a program and go outside the eula they are guilty because the program they used accessed their ram temporarily??? seriously??? that is the dumbest stupidest claim in history blizzard is like a little old lady sueing mcdonalds for her coffee being hot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so let me ask this then for all you legal geniuses so say i went to someones house who had wow and i download glider and log into my account whos at fault now? my friend or me? eula can have such a broad scope its not even funny&#8230;and when you say third party software that clearly can be defined as any background program you run while playing wow so listening to itunes is breaking eula?? and you actually think that those things make sense??? copyright-the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video&#8230;&#8230;..lets think about this for a second&#8230;.so what i think about this (im a regular joe smoe not a lawyer by any means) i dont see how saving anything to ram can be considered copyright infringement&#8230;.ram doesnt save anything to it if you want to get technical it runs what you are on then dumps it so i just dont get it so by definition wouldnt your ram be borrowing the information???&#8230;.now a hard drive saves information long term&#8230;.so if someone wants to open a program and go outside the eula they are guilty because the program they used accessed their ram temporarily??? seriously??? that is the dumbest stupidest claim in history blizzard is like a little old lady sueing mcdonalds for her coffee being hot</p>
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		<title>By: Acer Aspire 4810TZ</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-36983</link>
		<dc:creator>Acer Aspire 4810TZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what program exactly is it that one can use without loading it into system RAM? Also, does that mean that my defragmenter is infringing by making partial copies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what program exactly is it that one can use without loading it into system RAM? Also, does that mean that my defragmenter is infringing by making partial copies?</p>
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		<title>By: LCA2009 Reverse engineering, anti-circumvention, and other broken laws &#124; nic.suzor.com</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-35898</link>
		<dc:creator>LCA2009 Reverse engineering, anti-circumvention, and other broken laws &#124; nic.suzor.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] available here: 200901-lca-games.pdf    1) See, for example, Davidson v Internet Gateway (bnetd); MDY v Blizzard. 2) Sega v Galaxy 3) Skylink v Chamberlain 4) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] available here: 200901-lca-games.pdf    1) See, for example, Davidson v Internet Gateway (bnetd); MDY v Blizzard. 2) Sega v Galaxy 3) Skylink v Chamberlain 4) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Think twice</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-28405</link>
		<dc:creator>Think twice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re being unfair, we are part of their success so why they can&#039;t give us a fair share. What&#039;s that, whatever you do with your character their part of it and they have ownership of your own fan arts or whatever stuffs? Jeez, I was actually thinking of selling my account and having second thought because of wow eula till I finally found this site http://www.easyarticles.com/article-339043.htm that enlightened me on what to do. I know you&#039;ll agree with that article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re being unfair, we are part of their success so why they can&#8217;t give us a fair share. What&#8217;s that, whatever you do with your character their part of it and they have ownership of your own fan arts or whatever stuffs? Jeez, I was actually thinking of selling my account and having second thought because of wow eula till I finally found this site <a href="http://www.easyarticles.com/article-339043.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.easyarticles.com');">http://www.easyarticles.com/article-339043.htm</a> that enlightened me on what to do. I know you&#8217;ll agree with that article.</p>
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		<title>By: Blizzard wins vs. MDY Industries, makers of WoW bot &#8220;Glider&#8221; &#187; Chris Armstrong&#8217;s Virtual Economics</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-24091</link>
		<dc:creator>Blizzard wins vs. MDY Industries, makers of WoW bot &#8220;Glider&#8221; &#187; Chris Armstrong&#8217;s Virtual Economics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 08:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] friends over at VirtuallyBlind have reported that Blizzard has won the ongoing lawsuit against MDY Industries, the makers of the most popular [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Varactor</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-23602</link>
		<dc:creator>Varactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post By UseYourNoggen

C’mon people. Use that stuff between your ears. MMOGlider modifies how the client works. I know alot of you are just green behind the ears kiddies, but common sense is required. Leave the anal scrutiny of the letters of the law to the lawyers. And look beyond the end of your nose, beyond your own self-serving interests.

GOOD POST, agreed..</description>
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<p>C’mon people. Use that stuff between your ears. MMOGlider modifies how the client works. I know alot of you are just green behind the ears kiddies, but common sense is required. Leave the anal scrutiny of the letters of the law to the lawyers. And look beyond the end of your nose, beyond your own self-serving interests.</p>
<p>GOOD POST, agreed..</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-20599</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/sigh

The government is not saying what is legal and what isn&#039;t legal to run on your computer. 

IN FACT: IT is not illegal to run any program on your computer at all.

You will only face criminal charges if the program you are using is used to commit a different Crime. For Example: IF I create a program that when I activate it somebody dies, I would not be charged with &quot;Running an illegal program&quot;. I would be charged with &quot;Murder&quot;

Running Glider doesn&#039;t break any laws. Selling Glider does break laws:

in that it loads an UNAUTHORIZED COPY of WoW.
This would be the equivalent of creating a copy of a DvD for distribution even though it is only authorized for home use.

BLIZZARD SHOULD BE COMPENSATED.
How can you say they couldn&#039;t be? Seriously... 
Because of Glider blizzard has had to cancel many players accounts. (&quot;Well, gee der dumb dee bob they could have let the accounts exists right george?&quot; WRONG! IF they did that then many other players would be so sick of all the bots they would quit) Either way blizzard loses out on money it would have made if not for this program.

Look at it like this: IF you had a house cleaning business in which people were contracted that everytime you cleaned their house they would pay you $100 and you had 50 clients and cleaned their house 1/month each... Normally you would make $5000 / month. Now if I went around SPECIFICALLY to  ONLY your clients and convinced 20 of them to not use your services anymore you would be out $2000 / month because of my malicious intent. (OMFG You better point out every possible micro-inaccuracy in this METAPHOR)

Now... How much blizzard would be awarded based on guesses of who they banned or how much money they would have made, or if those players would have kept playing if it weren&#039;t for the bot... None of that is up to us... its up to a JURY. that JURY will hear both MITIGATING and AGGRAVATING points from both parties and decided what they feel is the fairest amount to award blizzard.
IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS FACT then HOLY SHIT! I hope your not an American because you make a shitty one.

Finnaly:
A Virus Scan does not actually create a &#039;copy&#039; of a program. Instead it loads a few bytes of the program at a time, compares them then unloads them from memory, it doesn&#039;t actually &quot;USE&quot; the program.

For EXAMPLE: I have a program that when used tells you what day of the week Christmas falls on, and that i only allow you to use this program for that reason only. Now if you make a program that loads my program and changes it so that it will tell you what day of the week Easter falls on then you have used the copy of my program in a way that it wasn&#039;t intended to be used.
Now the virus scan looks at my program and compares its 10101010010101 doesn&#039;t = virus. My program isn&#039;t actually RUN, or USED in anyway. Norton has no idea what my program even does.


USE COMMON FUCKING SENSE ppl, stop using doomsday logic and conspiracy theories to explain everything. NOBODY ON THIS EARTH is ever going to make using a virus scan illegal.... For fuck&#039;s sake guys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/sigh</p>
<p>The government is not saying what is legal and what isn&#8217;t legal to run on your computer. </p>
<p>IN FACT: IT is not illegal to run any program on your computer at all.</p>
<p>You will only face criminal charges if the program you are using is used to commit a different Crime. For Example: IF I create a program that when I activate it somebody dies, I would not be charged with &#8220;Running an illegal program&#8221;. I would be charged with &#8220;Murder&#8221;</p>
<p>Running Glider doesn&#8217;t break any laws. Selling Glider does break laws:</p>
<p>in that it loads an UNAUTHORIZED COPY of WoW.<br />
This would be the equivalent of creating a copy of a DvD for distribution even though it is only authorized for home use.</p>
<p>BLIZZARD SHOULD BE COMPENSATED.<br />
How can you say they couldn&#8217;t be? Seriously&#8230;<br />
Because of Glider blizzard has had to cancel many players accounts. (&#8220;Well, gee der dumb dee bob they could have let the accounts exists right george?&#8221; WRONG! IF they did that then many other players would be so sick of all the bots they would quit) Either way blizzard loses out on money it would have made if not for this program.</p>
<p>Look at it like this: IF you had a house cleaning business in which people were contracted that everytime you cleaned their house they would pay you $100 and you had 50 clients and cleaned their house 1/month each&#8230; Normally you would make $5000 / month. Now if I went around SPECIFICALLY to  ONLY your clients and convinced 20 of them to not use your services anymore you would be out $2000 / month because of my malicious intent. (OMFG You better point out every possible micro-inaccuracy in this METAPHOR)</p>
<p>Now&#8230; How much blizzard would be awarded based on guesses of who they banned or how much money they would have made, or if those players would have kept playing if it weren&#8217;t for the bot&#8230; None of that is up to us&#8230; its up to a JURY. that JURY will hear both MITIGATING and AGGRAVATING points from both parties and decided what they feel is the fairest amount to award blizzard.<br />
IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS FACT then HOLY SHIT! I hope your not an American because you make a shitty one.</p>
<p>Finnaly:<br />
A Virus Scan does not actually create a &#8216;copy&#8217; of a program. Instead it loads a few bytes of the program at a time, compares them then unloads them from memory, it doesn&#8217;t actually &#8220;USE&#8221; the program.</p>
<p>For EXAMPLE: I have a program that when used tells you what day of the week Christmas falls on, and that i only allow you to use this program for that reason only. Now if you make a program that loads my program and changes it so that it will tell you what day of the week Easter falls on then you have used the copy of my program in a way that it wasn&#8217;t intended to be used.<br />
Now the virus scan looks at my program and compares its 10101010010101 doesn&#8217;t = virus. My program isn&#8217;t actually RUN, or USED in anyway. Norton has no idea what my program even does.</p>
<p>USE COMMON FUCKING SENSE ppl, stop using doomsday logic and conspiracy theories to explain everything. NOBODY ON THIS EARTH is ever going to make using a virus scan illegal&#8230;. For fuck&#8217;s sake guys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/14/blizzard-wins-sj-mdy/#comment-20341</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also want to say thanks to mercury for letting me have a life to spend with my kids and still have the time to enjoy wow with my guild when i do play.</description>
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