Use vs exploit -scales of effect

Ive been using beta 3d tools and systems almost 20 years, and the combination of “faux tool/service and mass libraries for distribution riches” that has VCs today all a flutter is not only bad for a culture that still must as a whole, create for economic reward, but it’s an idea ripe for legal attacks as these TOS are declared unworkable by judges still based in the reality of food on the table voters…..

its as simple as “something for nothing” never quite working out the way you “expected” it…;)

frankly, ‘commercial” and “non comercial usage” has always been mix and match of winking in the software tools world. but thats a different story and issue.

Again, i just cant tell you how “bad” all this “free work for daddy” – (many of others IP)- is historically for the the larger picture beyond the illusion of today.

btw—- if google was using “sketchup” for “free” to be in the architectureal design market and compete as a “profession” id say fine,,,, what theyre using is the global uneven playing field of the “millions of want” who dont quite realize that if they all keep providing free work today for a multibillion dollar corporation they wont be “part” of the “main house” ever….

Someone will PAY for it:)…maybe not you, but maybe your kids or the world they’ll live in…..

civilization -law be it based on real or virtual ideas or items , needs some sence of fairness between its “players” to have any real meaning.

it would be nice to see less blogs about vr by futurists and hear from more historians.;)

“we only followed the TOS” ;)

lets hope this statement is only a joke now, and not a plea in 10 years…..

maybe after a decade of the net, people will look closer at the corporations and governments TOS;) around it. This look becomes more important as we take an even deeper step into the “immersion” of the laws and rules enforced and created by others.

only took 3 years for the SL folks to realize they werent in OZ.:)

faith.;)–geez did i say that?

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@c3 – I don’t think that all VR companies have quite as restrictive of TOS as this. LL TOS has been brought up by Ben before in regards to Patents, but other IP has a similar line that the Google TOS has.

That line “you grant Google and its end users a worldwide, royalty-free…” has to be there or people wouldn’t be able to use anything you submit, and it (I believe, though I’m not a lawyer) is there so that Google can prove (should they need to) that you posted it there with the intention of sharing it.

Otherwise, they couldn’t allow anyone else to download what you uploaded, and if that’s the case, why allow you to upload?

And I don’t think it’s wrong for a company to say “free for non-commercial use” and use it themselves (I mean they DID create it…), but Google DOES allow commercial use. You just have to agree to their commercial licensing and pay for it.

That is what I think is missing from Movable Life. If they don’t want commercial users to try or use it for free, then it would be a good idea to come up with an agreement for commercial use (though if it’s in beta trials you can’t expect to charge much if anything).

moral? do no harm?…whose the real millions of sheep?

“free sketchup for non commercial usage” except for our global commercial usage…lol

thoughts?

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typical of “service” companies online trying to score “millions” for them by “using” millions of US…as Sheep….;’)

look at all “hip” companies in the
VR world space TOS and youll find most have the same “underlying” boiler plates even if they doubletalk the blog press. real..lol press and worst the developers and designers who really create a new medium.

for all the crap the past open standards and “old” web3d
gets from you learned experts, i never once in over a decade had to worry about my posted 3d online IP being owned by someone else
beforethecurrent ” VRworld titans:)”

SL for real control and ownership still has the jury out, as did AOLs claims over ownership of users materials did 15 years ago…yes nothing new again.

c3

As a business owner, however, I have to look out for anything that can compromise the companies IP.

Hopefully this combined with LL’s authentication changes (so you don’t have to give the website your login info) will give people the ability to trust it and AjaxLife.