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	<title>Comments on: Second Life Child Pornography Allegations Draw International Press Attention</title>
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		<title>By: Virtually Blind - Virtual Law &#124; Legal Issues That Impact Virtual Worlds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; World of Warcraft Erotic Guild Disbandment Suggests Virtual Worlds May Become Virtual Countries</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-9399</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtually Blind - Virtual Law &#124; Legal Issues That Impact Virtual Worlds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; World of Warcraft Erotic Guild Disbandment Suggests Virtual Worlds May Become Virtual Countries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Different countries have different approaches to both exposure (and participation) of minors in sexual activity (whether virtual or physical) and to the presentation of sexually explicit content involving either minors or others portraying minors (virtual or physical). Facing negative press and potential legal problems in Germany, Linden Lab took steps to remove ageplay from Second Life a few months ago. Though a statute criminalizing virtual child pornography was deemed unconstitutional in the United States (Aschroft v. Free Speech Coalition), U.S. citizens (who would otherwise be allowed to engage in ageplay in Second Life) are barred from it due to the laws of foreign nations, including German and Israeli law. The implication is a constitutional tort: legal speech is barred by the private sector. This constitutes private laws made by the proprietor of the virtual world. I am concerned that these private laws may bar otherwise legal speech. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Different countries have different approaches to both exposure (and participation) of minors in sexual activity (whether virtual or physical) and to the presentation of sexually explicit content involving either minors or others portraying minors (virtual or physical). Facing negative press and potential legal problems in Germany, Linden Lab took steps to remove ageplay from Second Life a few months ago. Though a statute criminalizing virtual child pornography was deemed unconstitutional in the United States (Aschroft v. Free Speech Coalition), U.S. citizens (who would otherwise be allowed to engage in ageplay in Second Life) are barred from it due to the laws of foreign nations, including German and Israeli law. The implication is a constitutional tort: legal speech is barred by the private sector. This constitutes private laws made by the proprietor of the virtual world. I am concerned that these private laws may bar otherwise legal speech. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Virtually Blind - Virtual Law &#124; Legal Issues That Impact Virtual Worlds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Commentary: Chinese Government Game-Time Reduction Law Raises Questions for Linden Lab</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtually Blind - Virtual Law &#124; Legal Issues That Impact Virtual Worlds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Commentary: Chinese Government Game-Time Reduction Law Raises Questions for Linden Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Readers with good memories will recall that about three months ago, VB ran a short piece on an odd item from the international desk. China planned to impose a new law which would require that online computer games generate half-points after three hours of play, and zero points after five hours. Games that did not comply would be shut down. Three months ago I made fun of it. Now, I&#8217;m worried about what it might mean for Second Life. It&#8217;s amazing what a child porn allegation from Germany and an ill-considered policy statement from Linden Lab can do to change one&#8217;s attitude. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Readers with good memories will recall that about three months ago, VB ran a short piece on an odd item from the international desk. China planned to impose a new law which would require that online computer games generate half-points after three hours of play, and zero points after five hours. Games that did not comply would be shut down. Three months ago I made fun of it. Now, I&#8217;m worried about what it might mean for Second Life. It&#8217;s amazing what a child porn allegation from Germany and an ill-considered policy statement from Linden Lab can do to change one&#8217;s attitude. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sexuality and the Avatar: What limits? &#171; Shadow of a Doubt</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Sexuality and the Avatar: What limits? &#171; Shadow of a Doubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This plays into several of my favorite themes: the enabling power of the internet and modern day technology balanced against the responsible use of that power (and who defines &#8220;responsible use?&#8221;); virtual &#8220;depictions&#8221; of actions that would be crimes in the real world (I remember discussions on a proposed to law to ban depictions of child pornography, even when the &#8220;child&#8221; in question did not actually exist&#8211;it opens up new avenues for discussion, and for concern. Is something so inherently evil that you cannot graphically express it? If so, why is it not illegal to write about it? Lolita, anyone?). Stay tuned as these and related issues will undoubted remain front and center for the foreseeable future. Ms. Lynn also points us to a neat post summarizing some of these issues. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This plays into several of my favorite themes: the enabling power of the internet and modern day technology balanced against the responsible use of that power (and who defines &#8220;responsible use?&#8221;); virtual &#8220;depictions&#8221; of actions that would be crimes in the real world (I remember discussions on a proposed to law to ban depictions of child pornography, even when the &#8220;child&#8221; in question did not actually exist&#8211;it opens up new avenues for discussion, and for concern. Is something so inherently evil that you cannot graphically express it? If so, why is it not illegal to write about it? Lolita, anyone?). Stay tuned as these and related issues will undoubted remain front and center for the foreseeable future. Ms. Lynn also points us to a neat post summarizing some of these issues. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YourWorldEuropeansImagination</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>YourWorldEuropeansImagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations!!! Ah...at least my faith in good lawyers and the US legal system increases alongside the increased jadedness with Linden policy changes and misrepresentations. 

That&#039;s possibly the only news that could have offset the news (at least temporarily) of the inherently contradictory, &quot;broadly offensive&quot;-to-me 05/31 Linden-blog policy excrement.

Life would be hell without you lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations!!! Ah&#8230;at least my faith in good lawyers and the US legal system increases alongside the increased jadedness with Linden policy changes and misrepresentations. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s possibly the only news that could have offset the news (at least temporarily) of the inherently contradictory, &#8220;broadly offensive&#8221;-to-me 05/31 Linden-blog policy excrement.</p>
<p>Life would be hell without you lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Woebegone</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Woebegone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Order issued in the Bragg v. Linden lawsuit if interested in the &quot;unconscionability&quot; aspects of the arbitration provision.

http://secondlife.typepad.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Order issued in the Bragg v. Linden lawsuit if interested in the &#8220;unconscionability&#8221; aspects of the arbitration provision.</p>
<p><a href="http://secondlife.typepad.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/secondlife.typepad.com');">http://secondlife.typepad.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: YourWorldEuropeansImagination</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>YourWorldEuropeansImagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 01:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, a last point, my last comment was based on the assumption that you meant to say &quot;virtual child pornography&quot; here:
&quot;The other point is that [virtual] child pornography can be considered obscene material if not child pornography itself&quot;

If that&#039;s is indeed the case, then to make a further point:
I believe the entire issue is that the federal definition of &quot;child pornography&quot; requires that an actual child exist or include a depiction &quot;indistinguishable from&quot; a child (Linden Lab can only hope SL will one day produce a world indistinguishable from reality) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256----000-.html).

For that was what Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition was all about. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_vs_free_speech_coalition).

Also of note, some analysis of Congressional response in the form of the PROTECT ACT
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=11865</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, a last point, my last comment was based on the assumption that you meant to say &#8220;virtual child pornography&#8221; here:<br />
&#8220;The other point is that [virtual] child pornography can be considered obscene material if not child pornography itself&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s is indeed the case, then to make a further point:<br />
I believe the entire issue is that the federal definition of &#8220;child pornography&#8221; requires that an actual child exist or include a depiction &#8220;indistinguishable from&#8221; a child (Linden Lab can only hope SL will one day produce a world indistinguishable from reality) (<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256----000-.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.law.cornell.edu');">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256&#8212;-000-.html</a>).</p>
<p>For that was what Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition was all about. (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_vs_free_speech_coalition" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/en.wikipedia.org');">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_vs_free_speech_coalition</a>).</p>
<p>Also of note, some analysis of Congressional response in the form of the PROTECT ACT<br />
<a href="http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=11865" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.firstamendmentcenter.org');">http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=11865</a></p>
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		<title>By: YourWorldEuropeansImagination</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>YourWorldEuropeansImagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 00:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem I have with the &quot;virtual child pornography&quot; issue is Linden Lab taking it upon itself (or at least appearing to, reading its blog post) to

1) declare, with certainty, that some particular activity is illegal in any and all jurisdictions with access to Second Life, absent an actual, clear indication, given (for US citizens at least)
  a) a Supreme Court decision appearing to directly dispute this
  b) the &lt;i&gt;uncertainty&lt;/i&gt; of outcomes of obscenity tests, particularly since
      1) presumably juries in residents&#039; home jurisdictions (where transmission originates) would decide what is obscene and therefore illegal, NOT Linden Labs
      2) a jury in jurisdiction X may find some Second Life activity obscene, while a jury in Y may not conclude the same for identical activity, whether it&#039;s this kind of activity, or some other kind in the future

So for Linden Labs to take it upon itself to act as arbiter over all possible jurisdictions and declare its outcome for a situation that is absolutely unclear in its own country of operation, in my mind, is wrong. Linden may claim that it has contractual authority to close accounts for any or no reason. That is one thing. But what it appears to have done, instead (again, by my reading of the blog post), is to attribute its decision to ban two individuals (in the first paragraph) on its declaration that their conduct was illegal (later in the post, as otherwise Linden doesn&#039;t it doesn&#039;t explain its reason for banning). Though, admittedly, it doesn&#039;t explicitly state the nationality of the first two individuals.

Linden states &quot;If Linden Lab learns that someone is engaging in, advertising or promoting locations or activities involving the depiction of sexual or lewd acts involving minors, their account will be terminated...&quot; Even if residents create machinima/plays of Romeo and Juliet/Traffic/American Beauty (as specifically mentioned in Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition)? Linden again doesn&#039;t caveat and doesn&#039;t defer to authorized adjudicators on questions of legality. This is entirely aside from the glaringly obvious fact that Linden previously did not make this same legal determination, and only did so after an enormous wave of bad media attention in conjunction with greater financial interest in Europe.

But perhaps a group of individuals decides to protest the Iraq war, and in accordance with the TOS, creates a simulation of soldiers dropping bombs on civilians&#039; homes, leaving bloodied and mutilated bodies of virtual women and children strewn about across their private, mature parcel/sim. Is Linden going to declare in knows with certainty that they&#039;ve acted illegally, thereby justifying a decision to ban them? Or perhaps another group does so with terrorists bodies? Will Linden firmly believe there is illegal conduct, or will residents lose their property/financial interests for political/moral reasons?

About the proprietary interests, I believe if it were not for Linden&#039;s continuous campaign to claim residents have property interests in their service, it would not be an issue. Virtual land simulating real land doesn&#039;t make it prima facie ownable, no. I believe this may be a special case -a case created by Linden itself- only for the reason that Linden explicitly allows &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; to be ownable and transfers that ownership to its users. Linden makes clear in its public statements an intention for users to own something, though not the data itself, and not the servers themselves. I&#039;m not sure what it is, or to what extent that ownership affords real world rights and I&#039;m also not sure even Linden knows. Yet, I&#039;m also not unwilling to believe that representations of Linden&#039;s (owned) data of a virtual &#039;thing&#039; ultimately (after courts sort it out) be viewed as nebulously a concept as that of &quot;intellectual&quot; property (which of course, neither exists, but only in one&#039;s mind). Otherwise, what is it that Linden claims residents own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem I have with the &#8220;virtual child pornography&#8221; issue is Linden Lab taking it upon itself (or at least appearing to, reading its blog post) to</p>
<p>1) declare, with certainty, that some particular activity is illegal in any and all jurisdictions with access to Second Life, absent an actual, clear indication, given (for US citizens at least)<br />
  a) a Supreme Court decision appearing to directly dispute this<br />
  b) the <i>uncertainty</i> of outcomes of obscenity tests, particularly since<br />
      1) presumably juries in residents&#8217; home jurisdictions (where transmission originates) would decide what is obscene and therefore illegal, NOT Linden Labs<br />
      2) a jury in jurisdiction X may find some Second Life activity obscene, while a jury in Y may not conclude the same for identical activity, whether it&#8217;s this kind of activity, or some other kind in the future</p>
<p>So for Linden Labs to take it upon itself to act as arbiter over all possible jurisdictions and declare its outcome for a situation that is absolutely unclear in its own country of operation, in my mind, is wrong. Linden may claim that it has contractual authority to close accounts for any or no reason. That is one thing. But what it appears to have done, instead (again, by my reading of the blog post), is to attribute its decision to ban two individuals (in the first paragraph) on its declaration that their conduct was illegal (later in the post, as otherwise Linden doesn&#8217;t it doesn&#8217;t explain its reason for banning). Though, admittedly, it doesn&#8217;t explicitly state the nationality of the first two individuals.</p>
<p>Linden states &#8220;If Linden Lab learns that someone is engaging in, advertising or promoting locations or activities involving the depiction of sexual or lewd acts involving minors, their account will be terminated&#8230;&#8221; Even if residents create machinima/plays of Romeo and Juliet/Traffic/American Beauty (as specifically mentioned in Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition)? Linden again doesn&#8217;t caveat and doesn&#8217;t defer to authorized adjudicators on questions of legality. This is entirely aside from the glaringly obvious fact that Linden previously did not make this same legal determination, and only did so after an enormous wave of bad media attention in conjunction with greater financial interest in Europe.</p>
<p>But perhaps a group of individuals decides to protest the Iraq war, and in accordance with the TOS, creates a simulation of soldiers dropping bombs on civilians&#8217; homes, leaving bloodied and mutilated bodies of virtual women and children strewn about across their private, mature parcel/sim. Is Linden going to declare in knows with certainty that they&#8217;ve acted illegally, thereby justifying a decision to ban them? Or perhaps another group does so with terrorists bodies? Will Linden firmly believe there is illegal conduct, or will residents lose their property/financial interests for political/moral reasons?</p>
<p>About the proprietary interests, I believe if it were not for Linden&#8217;s continuous campaign to claim residents have property interests in their service, it would not be an issue. Virtual land simulating real land doesn&#8217;t make it prima facie ownable, no. I believe this may be a special case -a case created by Linden itself- only for the reason that Linden explicitly allows <i>something</i> to be ownable and transfers that ownership to its users. Linden makes clear in its public statements an intention for users to own something, though not the data itself, and not the servers themselves. I&#8217;m not sure what it is, or to what extent that ownership affords real world rights and I&#8217;m also not sure even Linden knows. Yet, I&#8217;m also not unwilling to believe that representations of Linden&#8217;s (owned) data of a virtual &#8216;thing&#8217; ultimately (after courts sort it out) be viewed as nebulously a concept as that of &#8220;intellectual&#8221; property (which of course, neither exists, but only in one&#8217;s mind). Otherwise, what is it that Linden claims residents own?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashcroft Burnham</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashcroft Burnham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 10:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claiming that users have a proprietary interest in their SecondLife content is, frankly, bizarre. The users have a [i]contractual[/i] right (the contract being the Terms of Service) to share in the use of Linden Labs&#039; property, the servers (and the rest of the communications architecture). Those servers run simulations of things which, if they were not simulated, but real, would be the kinds of things that people would own, such as land and chattels. It is patently absurd to argue that a contractual right to use server resources is radically different because, and only because, the server resources that one is using are simulations of ownable things (equally as absurd as claiming that everyone who uses a flight simulator ought to have a pilot&#039;s licence).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claiming that users have a proprietary interest in their SecondLife content is, frankly, bizarre. The users have a [i]contractual[/i] right (the contract being the Terms of Service) to share in the use of Linden Labs&#8217; property, the servers (and the rest of the communications architecture). Those servers run simulations of things which, if they were not simulated, but real, would be the kinds of things that people would own, such as land and chattels. It is patently absurd to argue that a contractual right to use server resources is radically different because, and only because, the server resources that one is using are simulations of ownable things (equally as absurd as claiming that everyone who uses a flight simulator ought to have a pilot&#8217;s licence).</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Duranske</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Duranske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 05:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to Bragg&#039;s site, and the note about the possible lack of objectivity/citation/etc. on the link to the SLI page.  I wasn&#039;t aware that there&#039;s a controversy over that piece, but good to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to Bragg&#8217;s site, and the note about the possible lack of objectivity/citation/etc. on the link to the SLI page.  I wasn&#8217;t aware that there&#8217;s a controversy over that piece, but good to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Holyoke</title>
		<link>http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/05/09/ageplay-second-life-worldwide/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Holyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 01:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Benjamin raises a sigificant point.  Previously, Little Gray of the Second Life ACLU (not associated with the RL ACLU) was arguing that Second Life was more like a public accomodation as opposed to a private club.  Which means that SL may have to allow more freedom of expression than your local lodge.

Two points to offer in the analysis of &quot;virtual child pornography.&quot; In trying to find the details of the German law in English, I checked out wikipedia which detailed that the UK law on virtual child pornography deals with altered images that look like &quot;pseudo-realistic photographs.&quot;  The activities on SL would not fall under those standards.  But I have not found German statutes in English so I can say what the standard is for &quot;virtual child pornography&quot; and whether that includes drawings of children having sex, even if it is not truly children having sex or something that looks like real children having sex.

The other point is that child pornography can be considered obscene material if not child pornography itself.  If it can be found to violate the Miller test under US law, then it would still be illegal.  This would be if roleplay can be considered content.  Also because it is mostly about a pruient interest, it could fall under anti-obscenity laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Benjamin raises a sigificant point.  Previously, Little Gray of the Second Life ACLU (not associated with the RL ACLU) was arguing that Second Life was more like a public accomodation as opposed to a private club.  Which means that SL may have to allow more freedom of expression than your local lodge.</p>
<p>Two points to offer in the analysis of &#8220;virtual child pornography.&#8221; In trying to find the details of the German law in English, I checked out wikipedia which detailed that the UK law on virtual child pornography deals with altered images that look like &#8220;pseudo-realistic photographs.&#8221;  The activities on SL would not fall under those standards.  But I have not found German statutes in English so I can say what the standard is for &#8220;virtual child pornography&#8221; and whether that includes drawings of children having sex, even if it is not truly children having sex or something that looks like real children having sex.</p>
<p>The other point is that child pornography can be considered obscene material if not child pornography itself.  If it can be found to violate the Miller test under US law, then it would still be illegal.  This would be if roleplay can be considered content.  Also because it is mostly about a pruient interest, it could fall under anti-obscenity laws.</p>
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